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Clarification of Lambda Literary Foundation Policy Guidelines of Nominations, 2009 Lambda Literary Awards, from Katherine V. Forrest, Interim President, Board of Trustees

Older Posts (Pre-Sep 25 or so)

Alan Chin: Discrimination at the Lambda Awards

Jane at Dear Author: Regarding Gay Romance

Boys Next Door Blog: No room for the heteronorm?/An Update

EREC: Lambda GLBT Book Awards Go Heterophobic

Teddy Pig at The Naughty Bits: Lambda Literary Award: No Straight People Allowed!

Fiona Glass: New rules for the Lambda Awards

Selah March: A lynching in the making

Erastes: A Little Miffed
[livejournal.com profile] erastes A Little Miffed (Same post; different journals; different comments)

Lena Prodan Where I Don't Want to be

Loving Venus – Loving Mars: Lambda Fail

Newer (Sep 25 & later)
Erastes in [livejournal.com profile] meta_writer Lambda's Explanation of the New Guidelines and my comments
[livejournal.com profile] erastes Lambda's Explanation of the New Guidelines and my comments (Same post; different journals; different comments)

[livejournal.com profile] c_smith_author The Lambda Literary Award has just sidelined itself as an arbiter of good GLBTQ fiction.

[livejournal.com profile] rm on the Lambda Literary Awards and the art of disappearing

[personal profile] torachan Oh, ew.

[livejournal.com profile] belleweather It's OK to be an Ally, Sheesh!

[livejournal.com profile] elisa_rolle LGBTQ Award: Setting rules

Rebecca Day: That Lambda Thing

Kate McMurray: authenticity and audience redux

Hayden Thorne: On the LLF Controversy

Ask Nicola: Lambda Literary Award guidelines clarification

Victor Banis: The Little Lost Lamb(da)s –Some thoughts by Victor J. Banis

EREC: Quoth: Lambda Redux

Teddy Pig at The Naughty Bits: Lambda Literary Foundation: We Can't Hack A Level Playing Field So

Teddy Pig at The Naughty Bits What Would Victor J. Banis Do?

[livejournal.com profile] leethomas Recently, the Lambda Literary Foundation instituted new guidelines for its awards

[livejournal.com profile] lee_rowan Lammys... ye gods.

[livejournal.com profile] mjaedin My opinion on the Lambda Literary Awards

[livejournal.com profile] kiernankelly Lamda Awards Shun Straight Ally Authors

[livejournal.com profile] duskpeterson The Lambda Literary Awards and gender

Queerty: New Rule: Straights not allowed to compete for Lambda Literary Awards

[livejournal.com profile] sparkindarkness This? This is my not amused face. The Lambda Awards


[personal profile] keeva shocking, i tell you
[livejournal.com profile] kynn shocking, i tell you (Same post; different journals; different comments)

Ann Somerville: Straight* women – it’s not about you

Ann Somerville: Lambda Literary Foundation Policy Guidelines clarified

Ann Somerville: You know what’s really wrong with the m/m genre?

Christian A. Young: The new Lambda Literary Foundation Policy Guidelines and you.

[livejournal.com profile] emmacollingwood LAMBDA Literary, Act II: The official statement

[personal profile] gloss [ oh, shut up ]

[livejournal.com profile] lunesque So. The Lambda awards thing.

[livejournal.com profile] likespring this is also just like prop 8.

[livejournal.com profile] kiernankelly Deleted Entry

[livejournal.com profile] kynn the bahleeted kiernankelly post
[personal profile] keeva the bahleeted kiernankelly post (Same post; different site; different comments)

[livejournal.com profile] kynn fight lies with the truth

[personal profile] elf Lambda=11=5+(2x3); Hail Eris

[personal profile] ivorygates Your Monthly Wank

[livejournal.com profile] kaligrrl once more into the breach with EPIC FAIL!!!

[livejournal.com profile] kellidunham What's that sound? Oh, it's straight people whining!

[livejournal.com profile] rockeandroll I am not a person who usually comments on this stuff

[livejournal.com profile] fiction_theory I have no clever nickname for this

[livejournal.com profile] jazzypom From my fandom corner

Karnythia at The Angry Black woman: Dear Straight Cisgender People Who Are Showing Out
Karnythia at Alas, a blog: Dear Straight Cisgender People Who Are Showing Out
[livejournal.com profile] karnythia Dear Straight Cisgender People Who Are Showing Out
[livejournal.com profile] karnythia Dear Straight Cisgender People Who Are Showing Out (Same post; different sites; different comments)

Seeking Avalon: On Isms: The Lambda Awards, Homophobia, Privilege & Racism


[livejournal.com profile] sparkindarkness Lambda Awards – disagree if you must, but put the privilege and homophobia away

[livejournal.com profile] eumelia My own fuzzy opinion about Lambda Literary Awards

[livejournal.com profile] gehayi DVD Commentary: Lambda Literary Awards

[livejournal.com profile] shemale So Lambda has stated that they will take into consideration…

[livejournal.com profile] dubious_virtue A lynching in the making (Same post as one from previous roundup; different site.)

[livejournal.com profile] dubious_virtue More re: Lambda Lit versus the Breeders
Selah March: More re: Lambda Lit versus the Breeders (Same post; different sites; different comments)

[livejournal.com profile] lanning well, now, here's a to-do

[livejournal.com profile] strangetwn_god Lambda Literary Wank

[livejournal.com profile] karjack Mini-rants

[livejournal.com profile] babel A few things.

Towleroad: Lambda Literary Foundation Announces New Rules, Leadership

TeddyPig: Because Someone Asked

Seeking Avalon: On Isms & Idiots (Part 2)

Seeking Avalon: On Isms & Idiots (Part 3)

[livejournal.com profile] emmyjag Lambda Literary Awards: Breeders need not apply

[livejournal.com profile] senior_witch Got into internet wank


[livejournal.com profile] erastes I’ve just received this charming diatribe in my inbox (Comments turned off.)

[livejournal.com profile] logovol Mi fetiche no es credencial (Post in Spanish)

[livejournal.com profile] kynn cue the wtf chorus

[personal profile] keeva Does linkspam need a new tagline?
[livejournal.com profile] kynn Does linkspam need a new tagline? (Same post; different sites; different comments)

[livejournal.com profile] gwailowrite False Allies in Straight-fail

[livejournal.com profile] flourish Lambda Awards kerfuffle

[livejournal.com profile] spoggly re: Lambda Awards

[livejournal.com profile] angrylemur People are idiots, Tuesday edition

[livejournal.com profile] abigail_roux Oh, what a tangled web we writers weave sometimes.

[livejournal.com profile] sparkindarkness Lambda Bingo!

[livejournal.com profile] sunhawk note one on being a good ally


[personal profile] kaigou lambda, literature, voices, and also, I live in the taj mahal.

[livejournal.com profile] kynn o dear god no

[livejournal.com profile] duskpeterson My letter to the Lambda Literary Foundation (this one's a few days old)

Erastes at Speak Its Name: The Lambda’s by T J Pennington

[livejournal.com profile] homasse Another Fail

[livejournal.com profile] moniquill Dear Lambdafail wangstbitches:

[livejournal.com profile] sparkindarkness BINGO!


[livejournal.com profile] la_fields Quick: Someone define me

[livejournal.com profile] catherineldf An organized rant about the Lambda Awards

[livejournal.com profile] chicklet_girl *puts on flak jacket*

Brent Hartinger at After Elton: Should You Have to be Gay to Win a Lambda Award?

[livejournal.com profile] elgraves Some thoughts
[personal profile] ellie Some thoughts (Same post; different sites; different comments)

[livejournal.com profile] chasingtides Lambda, Discrimination, And Are You Seriously Saying That?

Teddy Pig: The Founder Of The Lambda Literary Awards Speaks His Mind

[livejournal.com profile] senior_witch More links


[livejournal.com profile] sanguinity Ten Dollars and a Lawn Sign

Sharon Wheeler Awards kerfuffle

KD: M/M or Gay?

[livejournal.com profile] pyrephox Oh, Lambda, wherefore art thou? Deny thy community and refuse thy name...

[livejournal.com profile] zephyrprince Changes to the Lambda Literary Awards

[livejournal.com profile] ein_myria Chatter about λ

[personal profile] stoneself m/mfail and intersectionality and cisgendered privilege and more

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 04:13 am (UTC)
amadi: A bouquet of dark purple roses (Default)
From: [personal profile] amadi
This is where the intersection of reporter and participant gets very murky, and why journalists don't take part in events that they're covering.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 05:23 am (UTC)
amadi: A bouquet of dark purple roses (Default)
From: [personal profile] amadi
Then perhaps, if the goal is to attempt to present an unbiased and neutral fashion you need to find others who can do so, because so long as you're participating in the events that you're attempting to report, even in the limited manner that such reporting occurs here, there will be bias. It is impossible to avoid.

And kill the tagline, because it is absolutely no longer true.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 05:32 am (UTC)
kathmandu: Close-up of pussywillow catkins. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kathmandu
Then perhaps you would like to do a linkspam roundup?

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 04:23 pm (UTC)
amadi: A bouquet of dark purple roses (Default)
From: [personal profile] amadi
I didn't sign up for the task for a reason. But that's a nice diversionary tactic.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 05:58 pm (UTC)
kathmandu: Close-up of pussywillow catkins. (Default)
From: [personal profile] kathmandu
Wrong. The reason this was set up as a community was to encourage multiple people to contribute their efforts. Elf is doing this for free. If you complain that your free pie doesn't come in the flavor you prefer, you're being a jerk. Don't complain that Elf should recruit someone else to read your mind and fulfill your wishes; step up or shut up.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 07:02 pm (UTC)
amadi: A bouquet of dark purple roses (Default)
From: [personal profile] amadi
First of all, you have no legitimacy in telling me what to do. Secondly, my concern isn't that the pie is the wrong flavor, my concern is that the pie is a lie. This isn't pie, this is something else entirely. Which is fine, but then it shouldn't be called pie at all.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 07:29 am (UTC)
anehan: Elizabeth Bennet with the text "sparkling". (Default)
From: [personal profile] anehan
I'm not convinced that elf's not participating in the discussions she links to is any guarantee of unbiased reporting, simply because no one is unbiased, whether they are participating in the event or not. Not even those journalists you refer to.

If you see that posts on your side haven't been represented, I would suggest you send links to elf--or set up your own community, if you think elf is going to ignore those posts (which I doubt, but YMMV)--rather than asking elf to step down.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 07:42 am (UTC)
anehan: Elizabeth Bennet with the text "sparkling". (Default)
From: [personal profile] anehan
My bad. However, my point still stands.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 01:10 pm (UTC)
alchemia: (Default)
From: [personal profile] alchemia
I agree with your point.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 04:26 pm (UTC)
amadi: A bouquet of dark purple roses (Default)
From: [personal profile] amadi
It's not my job to maintain this community or ensure anyone else's objectivity. I simply stand by the point, you can be a reporter or you can be a participant. You can't easily or fairly be both. And that it's become clear that any anti-oppression work that was meant to be done by this community has gone by the wayside.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 04:59 pm (UTC)
pine: picture of big pine tree in California vineyard (Default)
From: [personal profile] pine
umm, not that I have the desire or the time to be dragged into yetanotherwank, but this:

you can be a reporter or you can be a participant. You can't easily or fairly be both.

is more than a little inaccurate, IMO. For one, it's a binary fallacy. And second, *everybody* posting here and elsewhere on LJ and its clones is both: by definition, talking about an issue is both being a reporter *and* being a participant.

Also, I'm disturbed by the implication, when you say it's not your job to ensure "anyone else's objectivity", that you yourself have this mythical quality of "objectivity." But I'm not going to assume that is what you meant. I've never gotten the feeling that linkspam pretends to be "objective," for whatever values of "objectivity" one might wish to assign.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 07:07 pm (UTC)
amadi: A bouquet of dark purple roses (Default)
From: [personal profile] amadi
The issue of objectivity is only in question because this community is billed as existing to further the interests of anti-oppression. And that's not what's happening, which means that either the participation needs to cease or the tagline and alleged focus of the community needs to be updated to be more accurate.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-09-30 10:13 pm (UTC)
pine: picture of big pine tree in California vineyard (Default)
From: [personal profile] pine
I agree that the comm should always keep a critical eye out on all those "cui bono" questions. Does linking X further the comm's goals? does *not* linking Y? Can any comm have goals that are not inextricably intertwined with the flist and experience and so on of the posters? It's infinitely fascinating (NTM, an infinite regress at some level) to consider the meta-of-meta issues and the politics-of-the-politics-of-writing-about-writing...

Which is why I'm glad Elf is doing it, as I haven't the time to do more than take the benefits and run...

As to the current Fail, I am just happy to see so many posts linked, so I can go read and be enlightened. Also, to see where the reaction has perhaps been more to the "OMG Change Is Coming" than to the principle of the thing. Fandom so loves to overreact. *g* Or that is, sometimes to react to implications that haven't yet been realized and may not be. Whatever - the more I am able to read widely on a topic, the more I do feel I'm able to sort out the issues and avoid one of those blanket "All X are bad, All Y good" responses that tend to distort the complexity of reality (and real people) but blow up into such lovely (not!) wanks.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-10-01 12:55 am (UTC)
amadi: A bouquet of dark purple roses (Default)
From: [personal profile] amadi
I'm disinterested in having the discussion, period, in that case.

Re: whose side?

Date: 2009-10-01 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] keeva
In short: She's not willing to have her privilege, and support of other privileges, challenged.

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