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Apr. 10th, 2010 10:11 am
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As some of you may have noticed, there haven't been any Linkspam posts in a while. Given that many of the mods are busy with real life at the moment, we've decided to turn the de facto hiatus into an official one. When we return (date to be determined), we are hoping to finish our long-awaited warnings policy and to recruit some new linkspammers.

Thanks to our readers for all of the help, support and advice that you've offered us over the past months.
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[Note: This is a linkspam on the general topic of isms and intersectionality rather than an archive of a focused ongoing discussion.]

[personal profile] sqbr: Derailing by numbers
The way I see it there are two parts to a derail:
1)Avoidance: the motivation to shift the conversation away from oppression one is complicit in to a less confronting topic.
2)Direction change:the effect of the off topic post to shift the conversation away from the voices of the particular marginalised group currently under discussion.

Afaict a "derail" is defined to be any post/comment etc with both of these. But the way I see it we should avoid both, whether or not they happen simultaneously.

[personal profile] sqbr: A shocking turn of events
So, the universe (via it's earthly representative [community profile] linkspam) has kindly decided to give me a real world example of the hypothetical derailing conversation I came up with.

[personal profile] wistfuljane: Artwork: Untitled [Warning: See artist's comment in pullquote below]
this, in the loosest sense of word, artwork deals with systemic oppression and may be potentially triggering for some?

[personal profile] phoebe_zeitgeist: some poll results
When I posted my anonymous poll about reactions to what was then the latest round of -ism/appropriation discussion in fandom a few weeks ago, I promised that I'd report back on the results, if and to the extent that anything interesting and/or useful seemed to emerge from them. When I said that I'd figured that the worst a report could do would be to bore people, and hadn't considered the risk that it might help re-ignite an argument that had died down. So I've been torn between guilt over not posting a writeup and guilt over posting one.

Thus, my compromise: I'm posting an abbreviated version, and over Escapade weekend, when there's a more than fair possibility that it will pass unnoticed by all. Because I like having cake, and I like eating it.

[livejournal.com profile] sirriamnis: Ok, can someone explain this to me? [Warning: Erasure of trans women in comments] [ETA 5:58 PM EST: Post locked]
Why is everyone unlikely to cut someone slack when they fuck up (re: disablism, feminism, sexism, racism, etc...) if that person has a history of being a good ally?



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[livejournal.com profile] bowieelfmanfan: This is going too far. [Warning: Tangential to subject]
Now, I know people are going to say "alright, they got angry, but the way AFP handled it wasn't good." I have to agree - I thought she could have handled it better. However, she has a life, and she has every right to block out what they might be saying for the moment and focus on her work. We've all had moments where we've had to block out criticism and go on with work. I don't think that we should judge someone for doing the same thing. She addressed the problem in her blog (in this entry to be exact), and people still jumped down her throat saying that it wasn't good enough. Look, she apologized, obviously she doesn't want to offend anyone, but she understands the drama that makes a good story.

[livejournal.com profile] modillian: [Untitled; discusses OP's disappointment with Amanda Palmer]
I mean, yes, I am pissed off that someone who I had formerly respected and gushed over must now be eliminated from my fandom and from my sphere of enjoyment, and I am even more pissed off that she's being such an ignorant ignorerer, and now she's been mocking "disabled feminists" on TV, and just, uuuugh. I am still so shocked that she thinks she can just brush aside all these people, who I'd thought she'd claimed as her people.

Ally @ Every Crooked Step Forward: Well, There Goes That Plan
When you pretend to be a cliche of a disability, you are not doing it to be avant-garde. You are not doing it to make a statement about us. You are not doing it because you find it 'creative' or 'interesting.' You are doing it for the freak factor. You further the idea that the best we can ask for is that it will one day be okay to be a freak, when what you could be doing, is standing next to us in support as we explain to the world that we were never freaks to begin with.


[The following link shifts focus from the ableist aspects to the problematic handling of class in the Evelyn Evelyn project]

[personal profile] aquaeri: Amanda Palmer's quest for world alienation
But AFP decided to include a whole new slew of people in her next round of offensiveness, just so I and many others wouldn't feel left out, I guess. I don't know the name for the kind of -ism where city people have denigrating stereotypes about farmers, but that's the one where I feel like she's taking aim at me and my family.



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As I'm sure some of you noticed last night there was a linkspam and then the linkspam was gone. Briefly, we messed up and the linkspam will not be reappearing.

In order to protect the main person involved as much as possible at this late point in time the explanation is going to be a little vague and possibly won't make much sense unless you saw the now gone linkspam. I'm sorry about that but other considerations are more important in this case.

The reason why the linkspam was retracted is that the posts in the linkspam used as a starting point an experience of an individual. The individual concerned was both being hurt by the way their experience was being used and by the information being spread more broadly across the internet.

As linkspam is a means of dissemination of information once we knew that the linkspam was actively harming a member of the community we could not in good conscience leave it up. Hence the removal of the linkspam and we cannot include in future linkspams links that talk about the specific events concerned or that have it as a major theme within their comments.

All of the linkspam mods would like to apologise for the distress caused to the individual involved.

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Julian @ gender, rants, and sodomy: broken hearted
As an artist I know what it is like to nurture an idea in your heart, in your mind, in your soul. But sometimes I can let my love of a project blind me to the nature of it— it is easy to let our love of our work (because our work is self at times) blind us to privileged and oppression. But we must not let this happen. If we fight against oppression (and AFP fights oppression, all the time) we must not choose and pick which oppressions to fight for. It is hypocritical and wrong to place one fight above another. We must fight ALL institutional privileged, because ALL institutional privilege affects every one of us. There is no "one" cause, or "one" fight that is more important because they are all so intricately connected and entwined.

Annaham @ FWD: Who Killed Civil Discourse? Evelyn Evelyn, Marginalization, and Internet Discussion
I'd like to take a moment to talk about some basic principles of anti-oppression activism and social justice work that intersect with the work we do here at FWD, as some very specific structural issues and contexts are absolutely relevant in this discussion. Often, marginalized people are encouraged and expected to be sensitive and accommodating to the attitudes and prejudices of the dominant culture and to those of less-marginalized (ie: more privileged) people. However, this sensitivity and accommodation usually does not run both ways. Marginalized people, if they criticize something that (for example) leaves them out or makes them feel awful, are often told that they are being overly sensitive or overemotional, that they just misunderstand intent, that they are exaggerating, or that their tone is not polite enough. They are then expected to modify their behavior — and their self-expression – to fit with the norms and values of those who are more privileged.

[personal profile] fizzyblogic: on the responses to the evelyn evelyn controversy
Curiously, I feel better because they "apologised". I never expected them to actually apologise — if they could acknowledge the real and lived pain of abuse survivors and people with disabilities, and the inherent offensiveness, oppressiveness and entirely-made-of-clichés nature of their project, they wouldn't be making it like this in the first place. I do actually feel a little better about the whole thing because I know that they heard us. They didn't listen, but they still heard us. Maybe something will worm its way through to their unconscious and they'll fail better next time.

Cynthia von Buhler @ The Shadowbox forums: Cynthia's Post About Evelyn Evelyn [OP is artist responsible for the album artwork and graphic novel of the Evelyn Evelyn project]
When I read the graphic novel I had a completely opposite view on all of the hot topics: porn, animal abuse, etc. It made me reflect on all of these issues. I never felt that anyone was being made fun of. We have been discussing all of this and we want you to know that the very last thing any of us want to do is hurt anyones feelings. These discussions are important. Please read the book when it comes out and I believe that you will see what I mean.

Vince Mascoli @ My Blog: My Response to the Evelyn Evelyn Controversy [OP created a music video for the Evelyn Evelyn project] [Warning: Problematic, and Tangential to subject]
I have read a little bit, and I'm frankly disappointed that no one is judging the album based on the album, since it hasn't even dropped yet. I agree with Amanda that it's about context. You have to hear the album to decide how you feel about it yourself. The ardent music fan in me is mad about the controversy, the animator/artist/business person in me is excited.



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[personal profile] wistfuljane: Let's make this post about me
stuff white people do made a post awhile ago titled offer white apologetics (instead of just apologizing). The subject is not new, but it hit a chord with me when I was at a stage where I felt like I had to apologize for my words and feelings.

So let's talk about the fallout of my post on Act of Derailing, okay? Here are some of the things I feel like I need to apologize for...

But there are no need to apologize to me for...

[personal profile] stoneself: derailing
it isn't that there isn't a point to what you are saying.

[personal profile] wistfuljane: I've becoming one of the people who can't stop clarifying
I left the contexts in my Act of Derailing post unexplained and expanded a little on them in the Let's make this post about me post but I need to let it out:

There have always been attempts at dictating anti-oppression discourse by those in a higher privilege status and changing or dismissing terms to fit their needs than those in a lower privilege status (e.g. men with feminism discourse, white people with racism discourse, etc. etc.). I posted Act of Derailing as a reaction to what I saw as the same type of actions if different circumstances (as in much of the same level of privilege, but different marginalized groups) - or rather applying terms of intersectionality discourse to general or specific -ism discourse, making, to borrow someone's description, an universal rule for all -ism discourse.

[personal profile] bobbiewickham: A Quick Glance at Fandom Prejudices, Using Leverage as a Case Study
Yes, sometimes you just like what you like, and policing your desires into fairness is no fun. Fair enough. And I can't see into the inside of your own personal head, so I can't tell if a particular individual has bigoted motives. But don't expect me to believe fandom as a whole is not shaped by bigotry.



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