MammothFail masterpost
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hermetic: unspeakable horrorgryphonsegg: Gryphon's Egg and the Half-Blood Rageelsane: "American fantasy" without Native Americans: oh dear and oh noglass_icarus: America was built on blood and boneshappydork: Lois McMaster Bujold makes me make sadfacejames_nicoll: About Doug Hoff's Empty America [Related]kynn: augh wtfldragoon: The Thirteenth Childquivo: Hmmwemblee: and the racefail continuesDeeper in the Game: Fantasy shouldn't read like a history book
flourish: Patricia Wrede and The Thirteenth Child: Really? REALLY?glass_icarus:oh my dear god, LOGIC FAILithiliana: The latest "wave" of "RaceFail"melannen: On Age of Sail, American fantasy, RaceFail, and historyPaul "Jvstin" Weimer: Racefail Returns? Patricia Wrede's Thirteenth Child
holyschist: I hate it when favorite authors disappoint: Patricia C. Wrede's "The Thirteenth Child"damned_colonial: Age of Sail fandom and antipodean racefail [Related]rosefox: "Standing in the English Rain"rushthatspeaks: an historical reduxSeeking Avalon: There's something about Tor writers
violetisblue: untitledkaigou: sleeping with the status quogloss: my shame was only exceeded by my furylanning: well, that's one way to avoid an issuerensreality101: Like words on a chalk board...Will S: no longer crossposting to LiveJournal
cyphomandra: Elizabeth Knox, Dreamquake [Older but related]A new comment by Lois McMaster Bujold
torches: All I gotta say on the topic of "thirteenth child"brightfame: And the Tor thread continuesracism_101: To include or not to include slavery in historical fiction ithiliana: Rushthatspeaks: Historical reduxsaramily: aw hell, patricia wredemorgan_dhu: Antidote to the Empty Continentsixquarters: The Thirteenth Childjonquil: A is not B (a Rand-free zone)sami: Because I need to think about things that are differently stressful, sometimes...pgwfolc: The Thirteenth Tribe, LMB and Racefail(also as
hatman, here)fiction_theory: You're hurting my head again, SF/Fstarlady: "Now you will pay the price for your lack of vision"Patricia Wrede: Fantasy Worldbuilding Questions [Not related but potentially of interest.]
alias_sqbr: Where are the Jews in medieval fantasy? [Old but on a parallel theme.]willow: PR=Pants Redactedwillow: Annndhatman: Addendum to last postsokesakuma: Ranting, ranting, ranting, racefailtamaranth: Alternate Histories and Real-World Insultwillow: The point being missedmorgan_dhu: Another white woman who wrote about settler culturesami: Derailment Redux: Lois McMaster Bujold Hypocrisy Special Editionhatman: Untitlednicki: Words are important: Fiction, a game of Clue, and racefail-the-returnzeborahnz: In which she weighs in on Thirteenth Childpir_anha: i see racefail is going into v2.0ithiliana: Personal/Political, Time/Money, Choices/Freedoms/Responsibilitiesgavagai: well meaning white girls against cultural invisibility and colonialismflourish: Wrede Redux: some clarifications of termsjackfirecat: D&D as RaceFailithiliana: Picked up from one of the 13th Child threadsjames_nicoll: Empty Old Worldmoniquill: So racefail...lanning: in which the privileged toss their coinsMore from LMB
Avalon's Willow: Never Expect Better
K. Tempest Bradford: Dear Lois McMaster Bujold
morgan_dhu: She said WHAT?sami: In which the History Wars go cross-continentalkanata: Two things about Racefail: The Colonialism Remixisilya: Patricia C. Wrederosefox: "My head can't tolerate this bobbing and pretending"deadbrowalking: wild unicorn herd check in"If you identify as a POC/nonwhite person and you read or watch scifi or fantasy, give yourself a name check in this thread. I am particularly wanting shoutouts from people who do not live in the US and who have still managed to read genre fiction."
bravecows: Thirteenth Child et seqkarnythia: I would make a terrible superhero girlfriend
happydork: More on LMB and racestoneself: racefail 1.0.2: the amazing fuck upstoneself: don't listen to the POCcarenejeans: Lions and Mammoths and Bears, oh My!brightfame: How to become a PoC specific reader, in several, not-so-easy stepsnojojojo: Online identity and activismglass_icarus: closing the bookbookshop: untitledshadydave: More Race Failkutsuwamushi: appropriate icon is inappropriatedarkrosetiger: Dear Ms Bujoldjesse_the_k: Mammothfaillaura47: My biggest problem with racefail is that i think a whole lot of people felt this way...SeeLight: Can we NOT do Racefail again, please?
sinboy: Zombie racefail rises from the grave!kenakeri: Wow. So needed to see this on a Monday.aquaeri: How to be complicit in Racefailusomitai: the cycle repeatsheleninwales: Racefail 2.0 Thirteenth Childethrosdemon: untitledms_treesap: Have your existence denied by mainstream s/f; make tea.keeva: we hunted it into extinction...now it's hunting US!sparrowinsky: untitledkjpepper: Wowdelux_vivens: Starting off the week with a vehement rantal_zorra: Beyond Eating, And Also Appropriate As A Response To...torches: okay so i lied about having nothing else to add on the subjectsami: Back to Patricia Wrede and the Thirteenth Child: You Haven't Read This Post!sabinelagrande: There isn't enough facepalm in the New or Old Worlds lolaranincoat: two points on the latest episode of stupid behavior among writers of science fictiondeadbrowalking: Untitleddeadbrowalking: It's A Day That Ends In Y Therefore We Must Have Erasuresqbr: Mars=the wild westbruceb: The rest of us: fandomTorque Control: Sigh
Liz Henry: MammothFail 09
sanguinity: And The Mammoth You Rode In On sodzilla: My selfish whinings about RaceFailaycheb: History re-written by the victorssuch_heights: Untitledrabbitucker: What horrors have I gotten myself into?!keeva: which came first, the indian or the mammoth?keeva: eeerrrunnnhk!ceri: Secrets of composition revealed!Making Light: 1491 [Old but relevant]
nextian: no i don't know why she got all strung out on the motherlandsnow: We Oughta Show Contritionbrightfame: Fixing the universe, one fanfic at a timekali921: I see you. I see you all, and you're wonderfultrinityva: Controversy and Artgwailowrite: ah, the racefail continues onethrosdemon: UntitledSeeLight: White House Geekery
the_drifter: Man, I love a good roll-callanonymous_sibyl: RaceFailErin Ptah: Racefail rolls on
spiralsheep: In which it's rarely a good thing to tell me to shut up about social justicebluerabbit: I guess this is why you never put people on pedestalsbossymarmalade: "You people are guests in our land"ithiliana: Rec: "Online identity and activism"Pam Noles: Why I'm Spending My Lunch Hour Today With The Door Closed And The Music Turned Up So My CoWorkers Can't Hear The Screaming
ithiliana: Silencing/Oppressing/Marginalizing/Suppr2ce: More on the virtue of large RaceFailspir_anha: once more, with feelingtablesaw: Part the First: In which I discover what is already foundparthenia14: backing away slowlypir_anha: on derailmentgreen_knight: The thirteenth child: personal consequencesjust_katarin: Racefail 2.0aubergine_pilot:This is the sound of my heart being dented.stephiepenguin: it's not that we don't exist, it's that you can't be bothered noticing ustrickofthedark: Bzzzzzzt. Fail.holyschist: Assorted thoughts on MammothFail '09ciderpress: I think I've done enough conventions to know how to spell "Melllvar".elspethdixon: When alternate history goes terribly wrongAngry Black Woman: A Call for Creativity
K. Tempest Bradford: Tor Books: A Perspective
50books_poc: Recs for Indigenous/Anti-Colonialist AUs, Indigenous History, POC SFF Traditions, and More!Lois McMaster Bujold: Bujold intersects the RaceFail conversation, briefly [Old]
elynross: Slowly my "buy new" (or read at all) writers list dwindles.elynross: When The Thirteenth Child was in the planning stagesgehayi: Patricia Wrede's worldbuilding questionsViolins and Starships: It's only fantasy
The Hathor Legacy: History is erased by the victors
paintedmaypole: and unfortunately we are just at the tip of the iceburgjsburbidge: Thirteenth Child's premisesgooddamon: So apparently I've been unconscious for the last three or four months.lonespark: One thought on Racefailsoupytwist: Two fails and a winfiction_theory: Related annoyancesLois Bujold: correction and apology
sami: Mammothfail: Am I the only one who thinks that They are really trying to defend bad writing?puritybrown: racefail 2: electric boogalooacrimonyastraea: Mammothfailricardienne: Untitledladyvorkosigan: The Thirteenth Childkutsuwamushi: Really?rehd_fawx: Oh, come onneo_prodigy: Gauntlets throwndlandon: All I'm going to say about the Thirteenth Child kerflufflekeeva: Bujold speaksyhlee: Fallacies and fractals [Missed post from earlier]coffeeandink: MammothFailbranchandroot: Good examples and horrible warningsDebbie Reese: Patricia Wrede's The Thirteenth Child
naturalblue208: "Wildly divergent history": The book I'd rather readunusualmusic: Please excuse me while I vomitskadi: Another Racefailsakusha: Untitledbachsoprano: In which I get a little hot under the collarfiction_theory: A small testimonial. Without the smallness.sdn: questionroseembolism: *sigh* When authors should know better.mecurtin: The Mammoth Fail of Why Would You Even Want That, and What I Want You to Write InsteadViolins and Starships: Follow-up to "It's Only Fantasy"
deepad: Staking out my stamping groundbrownbetty: Space: One More Imaginary Frontierpeake: Erasuresasha_davidovna: RaceFail Reduxgehayi: Racefail 2.0: A Song by Buffy Sainte-Marierhfay: Freedom of Speech and ExpressionCatherine Knutsson: In which I get a little hot under the collar
gaski: Oh, apparently I have a tipping pointkjpepper: *sigh*kerravongenius: Raceflail [sic] continuesnihilistic_kid: Dope of the Day![[insanejournal.com profile]](http://www.insanejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif)
stele3: MammothFail: The name says it allsabotabby: Time for popcorn and pollshokuton_punch: Untitled![[journalfen.net profile]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif)
unfunnybusiness: What's wrong with RaceFail?valentinite: Cultural Assumptions vs Cultural Appropriationsliyosa: Racefail: This is what I think of itneo_prodigy: FOC_UKarnythia: Fen of Color United
Seeking Avalon: Honkeyshines
xiphias: On why there are no discrete changes in alt-historyelynross: Racefail/Mammothfail collisionjamiam: Dear SF/F fans of colorbookelfe: Untitledtielan: *sigh*loligo: on erasurericardienne: Once more with (personal) feelinglady_schrapnell: Thirteenth Child, Patricia Wredeinnerbrat: The Pan Narrans Approach to Scienceclaws_n_stripes: You tell me what I wanna hear. I hear it all with my ears. telesilla: No, we aren't the freakin' Thought Policeshadesong: Fen of Color United!eyebeams: Tackling the issues of the day!SeeLight: Breaking Up Is Hard To Do: How To Handle Antiracist POC Communities
sanguinity: American Indian Contributions to the World, Part 1 of 5. Trade, Transportation, and Welfare stoicheion: Racefail II: The Mammoth Strikes Backpopelizbet: the fail that does not end: of mammoths and unicorns
Chrononautic Log: Genocide by Omission
Patricia Wrede: Moving Right Along [Status of sequel as of 8 May]
skywardprodigal: May 18, 2009 + foc_uKaleidoglide: MammothFail
rednikki: Jesus Christ, RaceFailmrissa: Books read, early Mayred_fawx: Untitledbeachlass: Things I want to tell you this morningsanguinity: American Indian Contributions to the World, Part 2 of 5. Food, Farming, and Hunting sami: Mammothfail: An explanation for the hard-of-thinkingconuly: Everyone's going on and on about Thirteenth Childlady_ganesh: MammothFail: You're Soaking in Itsteepholm: Continuity in America2ce: On checking yourself before you wreck yourselfwild_irises: Remembering Where to LookYonmei: He who runs may Wrede
ldragoon: MammothFail Follow Upwemblee: Racefail, The Next Generation: The Headdesking Continuesailiathena: Discomfort about Racismmasqthephlsphr: Preempting racefail: Or, why my novel may never see the light of daynaraht: Intersectionality strikes againfight_derailing: Update on foc_uithiliana: Update on FOC_Uinkstone: :|laylalawlor: The more serious and thoughtful half of the postrj_anderson: Writing in the Age of RaceFail Charlotte's Library: Thirteenth Child by Patricia Wrede
akamine_chan: RaceFail 2.0? Will it ever stop? Please?distaff_exile: And because there are two sides to every coin:ajat: It's boring me now, but then I get bored easilyissen4: In which I don't talk about RaceFaillamardeuse: RaceFail 2.0: The Next Pack of Assholeskynn: the coverup is worse than the crimegehayi: A Story, and an Attempt at Empathyhapex_legomena foc_u: My Anger Is Not An Isolated Incidentholyschist: Colorblindness (and related things)keeva: kynnfail: fallout from foc_ulayla: The more serious and thoughtful half of the postnicki: Venn diagrams and the social construct of Us and Themslashpervert: Race and Fandomtariq_kamal: Pretentious, Sanctimonius Rubbish On My Thoughts On MammothFail.telesilla Ruth's Three Rules of Being an AllyScott Neigh: Sci-fi/Fantasy Fans Against Racism
madripoor: Mammothfailhaddayr: Fans of Color strangedave: All the people of different races, with different lives in different places delux_vivens: ownershipRPG.net discussion: Patricia C Wrede's The Thirteenth Child: WTF?
K. Tempest Bradford: Creative Endeavors in Honor of FOC_U
nq3x: Racefail '09delagar: Writing and Race
Eleanor: MammothFail
sinboy: More on racefailfantasyecho: By teh Powah of the Internetz, I Compel You! Charlotte's Library: An effort to add color to my son's book shelves
jjhunter: "Praise song for struggle, praise song for the day" shvetufae: "I" is for identity.kass_rants: Race Fail, my non-White ass!attack_laurel: Support!dharma_slut: It's still Monday...cafecomics: Attention au mammouth ! (post is written in French)shemale: I haven't been using LJ a lot latelysabonasi: Fen of Color Unitedjoycemocha: Thirteenth Child, first takeviola_canina: Race Issues : MammothFaildistaff_exile: Cats, people, and where they crossmoniquill: So I dropped the ball...Monoquill at GaiaOnline: Racefail 09, Racism, and what it means for Writers
MajKai Nis is a bigot at GaiaOnline: Racial prejudice and how it affects writers.
wingstodust: Status Update, Linkspam for MammothFail, and Shatter the Silencemamadar: Weighing in on MammothFailzhinxy: FOC_U Day of Protest: My Post, In Haste green_knight: The Thirteenth Child - personal consequences pbristow: What I did with my day. Ben Aaronovitch: Aren't They Lovely
niamh_sage: A bizarrely mixed offeringreileen: #313 - Please don't ignore me - I deserve to be a geek too! sharrukin: The Master's Oath: Fourth Draftdoradoradora: I'm a bit slow to the partyDrowning in Maymester: Racefail 09/Fen of Color United
KC Shaw: Step one to broaden my scope
Aqueduct Press: Mammothfail 2
Zero at the Bone: Racefail continues much as one might expect, but I had been optimistic.
wombat1138: Ack.James Bow: The Geography of Storytelling
keeni85 at foc_u: Shatter The Silence Archive Post (If you've written something for FOC_U and it’s not listed, comment there to be added.)thirdblindmouse: Where Patricia Wrede is coming fromstarlady: 'Avrope, can hang self. Or, my thoughts on Thirteenth Child.sparkymonster: My thoughts on the Grand Unified POC Position on Raceneo_prodigy: No Pass For Youmoniquill: Late to the party…lady_jem: Et tu, Kass?keeva: "So consider your minority pass revoked."joycemocha: Further thoughts on Thirteenth Childhokuton_punch: Warning: angry white girl dharma_slut: On the topic of words such as; cunt, coward, snap, and slut. And the N word.egretplume: thinking about Phillis Wheatley Justine Larbalestier: Invisible Audiences? Invisible to Whom?
Neesha Meminger at Racialicious: Write What You Know: Limiting or Authentic?
aquaeri: Genocide by removal from landAvalon's Willow: On Banners & Controlling Space
bruceb: A few words on selective reading (older post)delux_vivens at deadbrowalking: residential schools comic.dharma_slut: Why I call myself a white allyjoycemocha: Frontier fantasy, anyone?lady_schrapnell: Thirteenth Child, Patricia Wredesanguinity: American Indian Contributions to the World, Part 3: Medicine and Healthsartorias: Question about how we look at textJoseph Robert Lewis: RaceFail: Author versus audience
Goodreads listing: Thirteenth Child (Frontier Magic Book) (includes comments)
niamh_sage: Untitled: From the latest Linkspam roundup comes RaceFail: Author versus Audience, by Joseph Robert Lewis.mamadar: On making art, not warla_marquise_de_: For the recordanarchicq: Racefail and how it applies to my worlds.johncwright: PC MUST DIE (Read with caution)briansiano: You gotta be fucking kidding . (Short & pointless. Included because "archivist of the revolution" sometimes includes "archivist of the people who think the revolution is boring and pointless.")marrael: Late thoughts on MammothFAIL and looking in from afarKalafudra: On Race and Genre Fiction
Antariksh Yatra: Some Thoughts on Writing (or not writing) the Other
neo_prodigy: Discussion (FoC_U sexism tangent)keeva: gads. the wankery leaves me speechless. (FoC_U sexism tangent)patgreene: Wondering...james_nicoll: Really stupid question (Tangential; potentially trollish. Also, privilege alert. But interesting discussion.)ellid: My sole post on Racefail, Mammothfail, etc. (Closed to comments.) gwailowrite: Why RaceFail09 and MammothFail and Avatar Whitewashing Matter to a Pasty-white, Middle-aged Gay Guyembololalia: Links for 2009-05-20
badgerbag: Colonialism & SFunusualmusic: on the subject of intersectionality and practicing what I preachkathmandu: Lies, Memory, and Creativity that Isn'ttechnoelfie: Untitled: The whole RaceFail discussion pisses me the fuck off. (Warning for, well, title makes it pretty obvious.)ysabetwordsmith: Native American History -- Alive and Kicking! badgerbag: Sunday panel: Something is Wrong on the Internet! (Wiscon liveblogging)takumashii: Wiscon: Authorial intent vs. reader response (liveblogging)thingswithwings: not anonvilleinage: They won't thank you when you're right: FAIL and the blogosphere at large (tangential at best, but related themes.)ndgmtlcd: 13th child by Patricia Wrede (Positive review.)eclecticrafts: Review: Thirteenth Child by Patricia Wrede (unrelated positive review; makes no mention of racefail.)
You,
this new comm is a great idea. spread out the labour.
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=4