pine (![[personal profile]](http://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small} pine) wrote in ![[community profile]](http://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/community.png){kind=small} linkspam, |
*links love*
A couple you might want to add:
Yonmei, writing at Feminist SF - The Blog:
"Fandom to researchers: We are not your lab rats"
http://blogs.feministsf.net/?p=1259
Couple more of the "Ground Zero" exchanges, for those of us who love the trackback/can't stop being researchy:
Dr. Science "Talking about who writes fanfic" July 27, 2009
http://mecurtin.livejournal.com/805
Shaggirl "Rule 34, or: tentacle porn, what tentacle porn?" July 19, 2009
http://shaggirl.livejournal.com/185
==> Special interest for the verbatim post of their letters to her and their interesting and constant revisions of the supposed research <==
Shaggirl "My response to the neuroscientists..." July 20, 2009
http://shaggirl.livejournal.com/185
(in which she refers them to mecurtin, a whole bunch of informative metas *that they obviously did not read*, OTW, and several of the canon texts on fandom LOL, like _Textual Poachers_)
Shaggirl "A response from our friendly scientists..." July 22, 2009
http://shaggirl.livejournal.com/186
(includes responses by Ogi Ogas in comments to other commenters)
Shaggirl's Response to the n/scientists has perhaps the most explicit statement from Ogas of his preconception that men and women (little 2gender problem there) are fundamentally different neurologically, that this can be studied without paying any attention to the social, cultural, or any other contexts, or even psychology... and the most loltastic reply to him, which he ignores:
From: [info]ogi_ogas
2009-07-28 09:27 am (local)
chicklet_girl:
Yes, we're interested in understanding some very ancient neural circuits that are different in men and women. We certainly don't have anything useful or interesting to contribute to cultural studies, literary studies, social sciences, or psychology, which we leave to individuals better informed than ourselves! :)
Ogi
From: (Anonymous)
2009-09-01 10:56 am (local)
Neural Circuits...
I don't see how you can really do that without actually studying a sample of individuals (both male and female) who write or read fanfic in a properly controlled setting.
Also, you will probably not be aware that there are also large numbers of asexuals who are involved in fandom.
Nate (who happens to be male)
I guess I'll throw these links up at my own journal with a link to your nice roundup. Also, if you want to add my posts to the roundup, they're public.
A couple you might want to add:
Yonmei, writing at Feminist SF - The Blog:
"Fandom to researchers: We are not your lab rats"
http://blogs.feministsf.net/?p=1259
Couple more of the "Ground Zero" exchanges, for those of us who love the trackback/can't stop being researchy:
Dr. Science "Talking about who writes fanfic" July 27, 2009
http://mecurtin.livejournal.com/805
Shaggirl "Rule 34, or: tentacle porn, what tentacle porn?" July 19, 2009
http://shaggirl.livejournal.com/185
==> Special interest for the verbatim post of their letters to her and their interesting and constant revisions of the supposed research <==
Shaggirl "My response to the neuroscientists..." July 20, 2009
http://shaggirl.livejournal.com/185
(in which she refers them to mecurtin, a whole bunch of informative metas *that they obviously did not read*, OTW, and several of the canon texts on fandom LOL, like _Textual Poachers_)
Shaggirl "A response from our friendly scientists..." July 22, 2009
http://shaggirl.livejournal.com/186
(includes responses by Ogi Ogas in comments to other commenters)
Shaggirl's Response to the n/scientists has perhaps the most explicit statement from Ogas of his preconception that men and women (little 2gender problem there) are fundamentally different neurologically, that this can be studied without paying any attention to the social, cultural, or any other contexts, or even psychology... and the most loltastic reply to him, which he ignores:
From: [info]ogi_ogas
2009-07-28 09:27 am (local)
chicklet_girl:
Yes, we're interested in understanding some very ancient neural circuits that are different in men and women. We certainly don't have anything useful or interesting to contribute to cultural studies, literary studies, social sciences, or psychology, which we leave to individuals better informed than ourselves! :)
Ogi
From: (Anonymous)
2009-09-01 10:56 am (local)
Neural Circuits...
I don't see how you can really do that without actually studying a sample of individuals (both male and female) who write or read fanfic in a properly controlled setting.
Also, you will probably not be aware that there are also large numbers of asexuals who are involved in fandom.
Nate (who happens to be male)
I guess I'll throw these links up at my own journal with a link to your nice roundup. Also, if you want to add my posts to the roundup, they're public.
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