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[personal profile] sqbr: Derailing by numbers
The way I see it there are two parts to a derail:
1)Avoidance: the motivation to shift the conversation away from oppression one is complicit in to a less confronting topic.
2)Direction change:the effect of the off topic post to shift the conversation away from the voices of the particular marginalised group currently under discussion.

Afaict a "derail" is defined to be any post/comment etc with both of these. But the way I see it we should avoid both, whether or not they happen simultaneously.

[personal profile] sqbr: A shocking turn of events
So, the universe (via it's earthly representative [community profile] linkspam) has kindly decided to give me a real world example of the hypothetical derailing conversation I came up with.

[personal profile] wistfuljane: Artwork: Untitled [Warning: See artist's comment in pullquote below]
this, in the loosest sense of word, artwork deals with systemic oppression and may be potentially triggering for some?

[personal profile] phoebe_zeitgeist: some poll results
When I posted my anonymous poll about reactions to what was then the latest round of -ism/appropriation discussion in fandom a few weeks ago, I promised that I'd report back on the results, if and to the extent that anything interesting and/or useful seemed to emerge from them. When I said that I'd figured that the worst a report could do would be to bore people, and hadn't considered the risk that it might help re-ignite an argument that had died down. So I've been torn between guilt over not posting a writeup and guilt over posting one.

Thus, my compromise: I'm posting an abbreviated version, and over Escapade weekend, when there's a more than fair possibility that it will pass unnoticed by all. Because I like having cake, and I like eating it.

[livejournal.com profile] sirriamnis: Ok, can someone explain this to me? [Warning: Erasure of trans women in comments] [ETA 5:58 PM EST: Post locked]
Why is everyone unlikely to cut someone slack when they fuck up (re: disablism, feminism, sexism, racism, etc...) if that person has a history of being a good ally?



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Date: 2010-03-15 09:55 pm (UTC)
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